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The military can’t do what the police can’t do

@Nonya_Bidniss đź”— https://infosec.exchange/users/Nonya_Bidniss/statuses/113822406976464940

«After the D.C. National Guard was ordered to clear demonstrators from Lafayette Square across from the White House in 2020 using tear gas, rubber bullets and flash-bang grenades, a group of lawyers founded “The Orders Project” aimed at connecting up lawyers and troops looking for legal advice. One of the founders, Eugene Fidell of Yale Law School, said that the group disbanded after the first Trump administration but is now being resurrected. “With the return of President Trump, we’re ready to help people in need,” Fidell said.

Most legal experts agree that troops must obey all nominally legal orders. But military lawyers say it’s important for troops to remember that even if called into action they must obey peoples’ constitutional rights — including the right to assemble and to be protected from unlawful arrest and seizure or unreasonable force. “You have to follow the Fourth, Fifth and Sixth amendments. They don’t get waived,” said Dehn. … “Due process still applies,” Nunn agreed. “Military personnel deployed under the [Insurrection Act] can’t do what law enforcement can’t do. They can’t shoot peaceful protesters.”

Says one lawyer who has studied many cases of military-civilian conflict and spoke on condition of anonymity because he fears retribution from the new Trump administration: “I think things are going to be bad, really bad. This is going to be worse than last time. Trump is angry. He desperately wants to turn on his TV and see guys in uniform on the streets.”»

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2025/01/12/trump-military-immigration-domestic-deployment-00195609

Imagine what the parents of a dead 23-year-old can do with lawyers and funding.