https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/06/biden-ukraine-recordings-oan/612454/?scrolla=5eb6d68b7fedc32c19ef33b4

«McFaul said what he’s seeing now reminds him of tactics the Kremlin has used against its domestic political opponents. “It’s not to convince you of a different point of view. It’s to convince you that there is no truth,” he said. “When it feels like nobody’s telling the truth and there is no truth, the reaction to that is despondency and demobilization.”»